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- September 24, 2005 at 6:56 pm #1972cl0vergalxParticipant
heys ppl. 😀 i confused with tis. erms. enzymes denature under some infavourable conditions right? but is the procees revesible or irrevesible? ❓
- September 24, 2005 at 7:06 pm #29913MrMisteryParticipant
irreversible
- September 24, 2005 at 7:21 pm #29916cl0vergalxParticipant
thanks! 😆
- September 25, 2005 at 1:01 am #29923JelanenParticipant
That is not entirely accurate. If the lowest energy state of the protein is also its functional configuration, then denatureing will only inactivate the protein while it is in the unfavorable condition. If you return the protein to a favorable condition, it will (hopefully) assume the lowest energy state, which in my example, is also its functional state. That being said, 9.99 times out of 10, the denatured protein is trashed. I would avoid absolutes. If I have learned anything from schooling, industry, or life, this is no such thing as absolutes.
-Jelanen
- September 25, 2005 at 5:32 pm #29949PoisonParticipant
Let’s say usually irreversable.
- September 25, 2005 at 5:56 pm #29954MrMisteryParticipant
Ok, ok, sorry. Jelanen is right. I try to avoid absolute statements too, but that one slipped 😀 Usually irreversible…
- September 27, 2005 at 12:09 pm #30010victorParticipant
😀 since Einstein’s theory come out…absolute can’t be maintained..it’s relative to each other… 😆
- September 27, 2005 at 9:03 pm #30023JelanenParticipant
Einstein said TIME is relative to the observer. Totally off topic, but cool story: When the US developed and implemented GPS satellites, they couldn’t get an accurate location determination, they were off by hundreds of meters. Some too-smart-guy decided to add in equations dealing with relativity…DING. Now I can figure out where I am with an EPE of 5m.
-Jelanen
- September 28, 2005 at 6:24 pm #30081MrMisteryParticipant
Yeah, i read that too. very interesting indeed.
- September 28, 2005 at 10:45 pm #30086Fried Zygote SandwichParticipant
I’m pretty sure that you can denature an enzyme until a certain point and it will reform the original shape. As long as you don’t change the primary (or is it secondary?) structure of an enzyme it reconfigures. I THINK. I’m not certain.
This said, any sort of heating or change in enviroment that breaks the peptide bonds between the amino acids and alters the primary shape will render it no longer reversible.
An example of the reversible denaturing an an enzyme would be pepsin and pepsinogen in the stomach. The enzyme responsible for digestion of proteins inactive in a certain pH, then active when the pH level becomes favorable.
- September 29, 2005 at 6:59 pm #30135MrMisteryParticipant
It’s secondary and tertiary. And, with a few exceptions, it is irreversible…
jelanen pointed out the exceptions… - September 29, 2005 at 7:01 pm #30136JelanenParticipant
No, reread the posts above and you’ll see that whether you can regain enzyme activity after denaturization depends on what the active energy state of the enzyme is. If the active conformation is also the lowest energy state, then you have a better chance of regaining activity. The enzyme might also reform into a higher conformational energy state, that is inactive. It would be so much easier if I could draw it for you, much easier to understand that way.
-Jelanen
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