Missing Link between Modern Apes & Humans Impossible?

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    • #1054
      b_d_41501
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      Why is the notion of a “missing link” between modern apes and humans inaccurate? Is it because Humans evolved from a common ancestor shared with modern apes, not from modern apes themselves?

    • #23615
      mith
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      It would be accurate if you viewed the missing link as the common ancestor.

    • #23622
      b_d_41501
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      Thanks

    • #24371
      charles brough
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      interesting subject. A similar subject is whether or not it is possible for humans and chimps to mate. Is there a possiblitlty of a “liger” like between a lion and a tiger or a mule being a cross with a horse and a donkey? This is an old subject but not a very popular one! It was voiced several hundred years ago, I read. Also, I read in a very unreliable newspaper that it did happen in England but that it was kept hidden from the public. I had no faith in the source or the story, but there was a photo of the boy and, to my suprise, he did look like a “chimp-human.” I think the whole subject is so unpopular because it raises the question as to whether he has a soul or not. Perhap, being half human, he would have only a half sole. . . 😀

      charles
      http://humanpurpose.simplenet.com

    • #24385
      mith
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      Religiously speaking it’ll depend on the church…they might either say that God allowed it…or they might declare it an unholy union and do some thing about it(Van Helsing).

      Biologically, there are many barriers to prevent this from happening. For one, the sperm cells would not recognize the egg cell and the egg cell would probably not allow the sperm to enter. Secondly, even if conception did occur, the offspring would very probably abort at an early stage. Thirdly…who would want to have sex with a chimp? 🙄
      There’s a couple more barriers I’ve not mentioned but I think you get the idea.

    • #24425
      b_d_41501
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      I would 😳 Darn it, there I go again saying what I’m thinking. lol. 😛

    • #24499
      charles brough
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      Then, you are saying there is more genetic difference between the chimp and we humans than between lions and tigers, donkeys and horses. I certainly agree that chimp females are unattractive—at least to me! I note, however, that urangatans are noted for trying to mate with humans.

    • #24503
      mith
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      Well, they’re different species, I’d say we are quite genetically different from monkeys.

    • #24516
      biostudent84
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      quote mithrilhack:

      Well, they’re different species, I’d say we are quite genetically different from monkeys.

      Under 1% genetically different though 😉 But just that little bit can “put us over the top” so to speak

    • #24561
      b_d_41501
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      Exactly, the small difference, and it is very very small, between apes and ourselves ended up in us coming out on top instead of having a real-life Planet of the Apes. 😉

    • #24597
      biostudent84
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      quote b_d_41501:

      Exactly, the small difference, and it is very very small, between apes and ourselves ended up in us coming out on top instead of having a real-life Planet of the Apes. 😉

      Hahahaha. Might be!

    • #24610
      b_d_41501
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      Wouldn’t it be cool to know if it actually would’ve been that way?

    • #24620
      biostudent84
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      quote b_d_41501:

      Wouldn’t it be cool to know if it actually would’ve been that way?

      Apes would have been the intelligent ones wondering what it would be like if humans were on top 😉 that’s the only difference.

    • #24631
      b_d_41501
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      I mean the different technologies.

    • #24639
      biostudent84
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      quote b_d_41501:

      I mean the different technologies.

      This is just conjecture, but I’d think it would be pretty close to our own. Where apes have similar body structures, they wouldn’t “need” technology much different from our own.

    • #24715
      b_d_41501
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      Guess you’re right there. What would the technology be like if……………ants ruled the world. lol

    • #24753
      MrMistery
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      Probably a lot of tunels 😉 But ants could never rule the world…

    • #24778
      James
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      Have you ever seen the film ‘Antz’? Those ants are highly resourceful 😀

    • #24780
      MrMistery
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      Loool… Thank god that is only a mouvie… The human race is in no danger from that point of view i think 😀 😀

    • #24794
      b_d_41501
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      lol. Hilarious movie. Sly Stallone as an ant, just hilarious.

    • #25200
      charles brough
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      Why is it that you all wonder what is the difference between us and the apes when we are also an ape? We are all in the same family! Only the old religions separate us out as if we were something entirely different. Between us and the other apes, there is a varryfing degree of stages or transitions. There is no “the” missing link. Every link or intermediate stage we do not have a specimin of is a temporary “missing link” until it is found. We will never be able to find every single one, and we don’t need to.

      I think we are closer to the chimp that the chimp is to the gorilla. Can anyone verify that? Our social arrangments are very much like the chimp but the gorilla is very different. Also, he is extremely gender dimorphic. That is, the males are almost twice as large as the females. That makes for a very lot of difference!

      charles
      http://humanpurpose.simplenet.com

    • #25201
      mith
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      You’re right about never truly finding the missing link….since these finds are discrete quantities there will always be someone who clamours for something in between.

    • #25207
      b_d_41501
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      I asked between Modern Apes and humans. This is the difference between what you are saying and what I originally asked. We are more closely related to the ancestral apes than we are modern apes because of the many years that have passed since the evolutionary tree split.

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