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    • #6626
      Vibrio
      Participant

      I have noticed a few times that some people make what I call "smart commens" to other people’s posts. Some of these I take as a bit offensive. These would include rolling eyes, implying stupidity etc. Now, I know I don’t own the site or anything, but I just wanted to point it out and ask as a favor if everyone could try not to do that. Maybe the people who do it are only kidding, but then I think it would be polite to say "jk". I sometimes feel a little irritated and offended by it and maybe others do too.

      Please don’t take this the wrong way. I am not blaming anyone, pointing fingers, or trying to make anyone feel bad. I am only asking of a favor.

      I will try my best to do this as well.

      Thanks πŸ˜€

    • #63979
      Dr.Stein
      Participant

      Ok, I was one of them, so what? πŸ™„ Are you irritated by my roll thing? πŸ˜› πŸ˜† JK

      It would be nice for you and other people not to be so sensitive, or getting emotional, to respond others posts. As you see, all we can do is just writing. We cannot show our expression, we cannot hear proper intonation, also we come from different country with different culture, where something common in somewhere can be so rude to another. All we need here is understanding and tolerance, avoid emotion, as I see most of you are young and growing-up smart guys. I believe you can manage your feeling well πŸ˜‰

    • #64018
      Linn
      Participant

      Sometimes I WONDER πŸ˜•
      This can be a good discussion.
      I can speak for myself,
      that I do not think Ill of any one on this forum. πŸ™‚

    • #64036
      destiny
      Participant
      quote Dr.Stein:

      Ok, I was one of them, so what? πŸ™„ Are you irritated by my roll thing? πŸ˜› πŸ˜† JK

      It would be nice for you and other people not to be so sensitive, or getting emotional, to respond others posts. As you see, all we can do is just writing. We cannot show our expression, we cannot hear proper intonation, also we come from different country with different culture, where something common in somewhere can be so rude to another. All we need here is understanding and tolerance, avoid emotion, as I see most of you are young and growing-up smart guys. I believe you can manage your feeling well πŸ˜‰

      Agree. πŸ™‚

    • #64065
      LilKim
      Participant
      quote Dr.Stein:

      Ok, I was one of them, so what? πŸ™„ Are you irritated by my roll thing? πŸ˜› πŸ˜† JK

      It would be nice for you and other people not to be so sensitive, or getting emotional, to respond others posts. As you see, all we can do is just writing. We cannot show our expression, we cannot hear proper intonation, also we come from different country with different culture, where something common in somewhere can be so rude to another. All we need here is understanding and tolerance, avoid emotion, as I see most of you are young and growing-up smart guys. I believe you can manage your feeling well πŸ˜‰

      I totally agree…. !! (especially with the "different culture" part)… also, there are folks that visit this site that do not ‘speak/write’ english really well … and sometimes they may come-across as being rude. but I don’t think it’s intentional…its just that they are probably in the process of builiding their vocabulary …

      (gosh, I wish I could speak/write in another language!)

    • #64076
      Amrik
      Participant

      Hehe, I can speak English, Thai, Punjabi, Hindi
      I can understand but not speak the Laos accent of Thai language but if m not wrong thats a different language all together :S

      I can write English, Thai, Punjabi & Hindi (very little!)

      I want to learn Japanese! hehe

    • #64078
      destiny
      Participant
      quote Amrik:

      Hehe, I can speak English, Thai, Punjabi, Hindi
      I can understand but not speak the Laos accent of Thai language but if m not wrong thats a different language all together :S

      I can write English, Thai, Punjabi & Hindi (very little!)

      I want to learn Japanese! hehe

      Japanese language is so cool! I also want to learn. πŸ™‚

    • #64164
      sachin
      Participant
      quote destiny:

      Japanese language is so cool! I also want to learn. πŸ™‚

      Sayonara is "bye"…. πŸ˜›

      Then "Nihow"……….. welcome??? is this jap or chinease ❓ πŸ˜•

      What is "ShiShilee"…in chinease????? ❓

    • #64165
      LilKim
      Participant

      i really wish I had more time to learn another language… maybe when i’m not sooo busy. Anyways, i’ve always dreamed of traveling to japan, india, south africa, spain, thailand and france.

      So, i’ll need to start learning … eventually.

    • #64186
      victor
      Participant
      quote sachin_at_biog:

      Then “Nihow”……….. welcome??? is this jap or chinease ❓ πŸ˜•

      how’re you
      Ni hao (chinese)
      Wie geht’s (Deutsch)
      Apa kabar (Indonesian)
      Piye kabare (Javanese) πŸ˜†

    • #64193
      destiny
      Participant
      quote sachin_at_biog:

      Sayonara is “bye”…. πŸ˜›

      Then “Nihow”……….. welcome??? is this jap or chinease ❓ πŸ˜•

      What is “ShiShilee”…in chinease????? ❓

      Yeh, ‘Nihao’ is chinese.

      Eh, ‘ShiShilee’? I don’t know leh..haha.

      Arigatou is ‘Thanks You’. πŸ™‚

    • #64220
      sachin
      Participant

      @Destiny & @Victor:

      Thanx………..

    • #64324
      Enzyme
      Participant
      quote LilKim:

      i really wish I had more time to learn another language… maybe when i’m not sooo busy. Anyways, i’ve always dreamed of traveling to japan, india, south africa, spain, thailand and france.

      So, i’ll need to start learning … eventually.

      How are you?
      Spanish: ΒΏCΓ³mo estΓ‘s? or ΒΏQuΓ© tal estΓ‘s?

    • #64363
      sachin
      Participant

      So what for…..

      "Im Fine""Thank You" ?

    • #64369
      Enzyme
      Participant
      quote sachin_at_biog:

      So what for…..

      “Im Fine””Thank You” ?

      In Spanish:

      I’m fine: Estoy muy bien.
      Thank you: Gracias.

      Any word/phrase/sentence/expression more? πŸ˜‰

    • #64395
      sachin
      Participant

      Ok………

      Then what for "It’s all right."…….""

    • #64426
      Enzyme
      Participant
      quote sachin_at_biog:

      Ok………

      Then what for “It’s all right.”…….””

      It’s alright: Todo bien.

      Anymore? πŸ˜‰

    • #64437
      alextemplet
      Participant

      Hablo un poco espanol; trabajo con dos mexicanos, y necessito practicar mi espanol mas.

      Sorry, but I don’t know how to add the accents!

    • #64438
      alextemplet
      Participant

      Qui parle francais?

    • #64452
      Vibrio
      Participant

      πŸ™„ I’m sure means the same thing in every country. Facial expressions are universal.

      I was mainly talking about homework and other questions people have. Yes, I understand the language/culture thing. But I highly doubt that has anything to do with it. Quite honestly, the more I look at topics and posts on here, the more I get fed up with the whole "homework thing". I know and see your reasons for not wanting the posted exams. But its not just that. If someone asks a question that can be found in the dictionary or tutorial, they get cut down or the mods get angry at them. What’s the big deal?!

      And here’s my honest opinion: The rules for these forums are far too strict. Some of the things like posting in the wrong topic, too much punctuation, caps, etc are just too far fetched!! You tell me to not freak out over rolling eyes, when you guys freak out over SHOUTING!!!!! and PLEASE HELP!!!!! or FINAL EXAM TOMORROW HELP!! You claim these homework people are being rude in that way. Well to me its funny to see those topic names. I think they are cute. I don’t take them as offensive at all.

      A place for biology loving people has become a "Lets make fun of the people who ask stupid questions for homework". Thats the whole theme of this site!! You give awesome members (like chenglorraine) warnings for stuff that was NEVER offensive or anything.

      Go ahead and warn me, ban me or whatever for saying this but mods, this is no way to run a site. You are too harsh and inconsiderate of members who do nothing wrong. It’s just a forum. You can post in the wrong topics. For goodness sake, human beings make mistakes!! Its not that hard to move them!! You attract a bunch of people, but so many probably get tired of it for these reasons. Then the only ones left are the ones who agree with you!! "depending on my mood some topics just get deleted". Wow, what a wonderful mod team, eh? Take this as offensive as you want. But maybe you’ll learn from all those members who only stay at new. They only come to post a few things-only for answers. Well, I’m sure they would stick around if you wouldn’t always tell them to "open a text book and read it" so bluntly. I know a 15 year old who runs a site all by himself and does a much better job than you.

      I have tried to be nice about it, but I’ve simply had enough!! No, I won’t stick around. You can kiss this Vibrio goodbye. My flagellum has taken me far away. I’ll be working on my own site which is bound (and probably already is) to be much more successful!! Success is not how many members you have, its how smoothly things run.

      To all the really nice members, the people who ask homework questions and the people who have been wrongly abused by the rules: Hopefully this speaks for some of you. It has been a pleasure talking to you. You are the ones who kept me here as long as I was.

      A moderator’s job is not to get angry over every little thing, but to keep things in order. Members have no need to feel like they are being pushed around!! So get a grip and run a SITE, not a jungle!!

    • #64475
      sachin
      Participant
      quote Enzyme:

      quote sachin_at_biog:

      Ok………

      Then what for “It’s all right.”…….””

      It’s alright: Todo bien.

      Anymore? πŸ˜‰

      What for "Scientist"?

      and
      For "Do you love me"?

      And for"I love you"?

      and for "I hate you"?

      and for"shut up"?

    • #64482
      LilKim
      Participant

      hey Vibrio!

      Have a happy and prosperous new year! and I wish you the best with your site!

    • #64496
      MrMistery
      Participant

      at vibrio and anyone else who might be concerned

      the rules of the site are not created so the moderators can push people around, they are created so that the forum will be as functional as possible. and we generally do not warn people for using caps or naming their topics well, we just ask them to stop.

      and about the homework policy
      if this were a homework blog people would come from all over the world to have their homework questions answered, but it’s not. we try to encourage people to actually learn something, not just ask for answers. and after 2 years of seing people ask for answers, i am kinda fed up with it….

    • #64526
      honeev
      Keymaster
      quote sachin_at_biog:

      What is “ShiShilee”…in chinease????? ❓

      i dunno shishilee… but if its ‘shishee’.. (somethin).. then it means thank you in chinese…

      @ Vibrio… some mods have been here for so long that IMO they at times got tired in answering same questions over and over again… tho these same questions might come from different persons… i dunno if youd agree but a person has some ‘tolerance’ level πŸ˜€ and once reached becomes annoyed by it and finds hard to cover it up… and could only wish that if only the members extend a little more time – spend a little more effort to search and maybe from there the topic could advance in stead of tackling the same ‘answered’ questions again and again and again… some would answer directly others wont.. they have their own ways of ‘helping’ members based on their reasoning… its their choice anyway.. 8)

      emoticons is a way of expressing vividly and emphasizing a point since we dont see each other nor hear words… but be aware that the forum is loaded with different personalities… that a simple remark… a single word.. or even a single mark could ‘mar’ a sensitive eye and mind…

      On the one hand we should be responsible in using them as that might be ‘unintentionally’ offensive to others… On the other hand we should not take things too seriously or else we might perceive things wrongly and hurt only ourselves in the process…

      we aim to build a community with common interests (which i hope is biology, hence biology-online, right πŸ˜‰ ) while embracing multifarious personalities… and bio-online is not juz a site to locate a cyber pal or tutor, which is not bad altogether… honestly im glad seeing new members like vibrio to be very active, and are able to suggest to improve our site… since there is no perfect site that caters all… πŸ˜‰

    • #64541
      MrMistery
      Participant

      i totally agree with the last one that honee said. take for example the writing in all caps and naming topics out of place. even if the rule does state that people should do it right(cause that would be ideal), as the forum evolved we realised that it is impossible to warn people for that. so now i just rename it myself or if i don’t have time(which is the case lately) ask the poster to do it. same thing with posting in wrong forum, we move them. the forum is not army.
      But when it comes to the questions answered 200 times already, i get really annoyed. search the forum people, that button is not there for decoration!!!

    • #64576
      Linn
      Participant

      Well I dont hve any problems with this forum.
      I think its great!
      and the mods do an excellent job.
      They cant help what people who post write
      or how its interpreted. πŸ˜‰

    • #64598
      destiny
      Participant
      quote Linn:

      Well I dont hve any problems with this forum.
      I think its great!
      and the mods do an excellent job.
      They cant help what people who post write
      or how its interpreted. πŸ˜‰

      Agreed. πŸ™‚

    • #65066
      Dustfinger
      Participant

      @Vibrio,
      I have to say that the mods should be nicer sometimes. MrMistery you’re all O.k. (except the bit about facism, remember ?) but others should be more polite sometimes. That’s what I’d wish.

    • #65105
      MrMistery
      Participant

      fascism? I don’t remember that… But i must have been a moment thing cause i have no strong feelings about the subject… I really kinda hate politics πŸ˜†

    • #65131
      kjle
      Participant

      Ughh, I hate politics too

    • #65289
      Dustfinger
      Participant
      quote MrMistery:

      fascism? I don’t remember that…

      You once told me my party speech sounded like a Nazi, remember ? That was unfai. Just because I’m rom Germany that doesn’t mean I belong to these mass murderers.

    • #65298
      MrMistery
      Participant

      Haha… I remember… But that was a joke… And btw i don’t think i even knew you were from Germany at that time.
      I would need very compelling evidence before actually accusing someone of being a nazi

    • #65465
      pseudoscientist
      Participant

      How did this thread turn into a language discussion? Regarding the "Chinese" phrase "shishilee," I would assume it is "xie xie le," which basically means "thank you."

      Regarding the actual topic, I have no personal issues with "smart comments." I would even like them if they happen to be really smart (read: funny). I myself am often guilty of making smart comments on other forums, though I doubt I would have the same privilege here what with my lack of knowledge in biology. I expect to do a lot of reading and absorbing and not contributing to any discussion at all.

      However, while the sort of comments the original poster was complaining about does not particularly offend me, I do find them annoying. Posts like "jk" or "lol" or "thank you" or other similar useless comments should be banned, especially considering this forum has such potential to be, y’know, an intelligent kind of forum. Didn’t the moderators write something about this in the "Forum Rules"? Yet apparently many people didn’t read it.

      I have been a member of this forum for only a couple hours, but it seems that a lot of people really like to say things even when they have nothing to say at all. I also find it a bit mind-numbing that the members of a nude celebrities forum (I won’t put the link up here for fear of harming the underages) sound a lot more coherent and intelligent than the members of a science forum.

      Ah, well. I’ll get over it.

    • #67253
      James
      Participant

      Solution- remove post counts

    • #67274
      mith
      Participant

      @pseudo

      we’ve been giving out warnings.

    • #71935
      cracked_doc
      Participant

      ………………………………………….

    • #74075
      Vibrio
      Participant
      quote LilKim:

      hey Vibrio!

      Have a happy and prosperous new year! and I wish you the best with your site!

      Well, actually I kinda gave up on that site because I started a different one. Instead, I started one for a theme park near me. Ok, I know what you are thinking. Theme park-there aint gonna be any intelligent posts on there, so that doesn’t count. Well, it does count! Everyone on my site is a roller coaster enthusiast, to some level. Not only do we like to ride the coasters, but we like to learn about them. I bet each one of us could talk about the workings of different roller coasters and most of the members here would be like "what?" See, I am not all about biology, I am about every science.

      My site consists of people ranging from ages 11 to 19 (with one member being 53, but thats cause she’s my mom). So, we are all pretty young. I know you shouldn’t let anyone under 13 on, but the two that are 11 and 12 are two of the most intelligent middle-schoolers you will ever meet. You could never tell that they are so young. All of us discuss things that connect to physics and technology. The 12-year-old and I know a heck of a lot about our favorite coaster…its a science thing! I bet if you could read some of the posts coaster enthusiasts make on their sites, you would see that its more than just talking about how much you like a ride…its going into the technical aspects of how the ride is launched, why a certain ride broke down (technical aspects) etc…

      Here is an example of a very intelligent coaster enthusiast post:

      quote :

      Each car weighs 2,000lbs. There are 7. 7×2,000=14,000. Now we have riders. Lets say every rider weighs 100lbs. 100×14=14,000. 14,000×2=28,000. So these LIMs need to launch a 28,000ibs+ train. Try pushing that, No one can push a 28,000ibs object even if it does have wheels. Bottom Line: The LIMs do an amazing job launching what they have to.

      Top Thrill Dragster, Kingda Ka (which really shouldn’t be on there because it’s the EXACT same thing as Top Thrill Dragster except taller, faster, and a hill): Yes, they require a launch to gain speed. However, They have a HUGE motor that winds the cable. How is that done? By mixing nitrogen and oil together to create a reaction that act like a spring. When the cable car attaches, the mixture goes into accuamulators. Bottom Line: They have chemistry, and electricity to make them work. V2 only has little magnets to launch it. Bottom Line, V2 only has electricity to make it work.

      So, I guess what I am trying to say is that I WAS successful in making a forum with intelligent posting, it may not be bio, but it is scientific! I’m also not saying this to brag, its to show that intelligent forums can be sucessful without admins/mods being rude to their members. So, if that was meant to be sarcastic, LilKim, then I guess you can say this is sort of "in your face"…If that was not to be sarcastic, sorry…and then only the first reason applies. (Unless anyone else on this forum thought I couldn’t make an intelligent successful site)

      I started my site in mid January, its not at all huge yet. But what can you expect? Its only been 5 months. Nobody has given any complaints yet. We have a strict rule against being rude to others. As a matter of fact, another theme park site I am on had a problem with people being rude to others. The admin cracked down on it and since then, there is hardly a problem…and no one complains. Let me add that this kid just turned 16 and has not a single moderator working for him! Yes, he does it all by himself. Its a very successful site!

      I understand that it can be a pain answering a thousand of the same question day after day, I really would not want to do that ALL the time either. And yes, you get annoyed. But showing your annoyance through being rude is not the professional way to do it. First, try to keep your cool about all the same questions and if you can, answer them. If you are so fed up that you can’t, take a breather and nicely tell the person to do a search.

      Here is a good example from a theme park site (not mine) that I am a part of. The admin wrote this: (Let me add he was 15 yrs old at the time)
      "Welcome. Please be aware that there is a strict "No Rumor Policy" here. This is not Screamscape. Please do not start or discuss rumors here. Thank You."
      Now, isnt that the way to put it? I say, if you want to keep the rules you have, totally cool! But if you don’t have enough patience to alert members in a nice way, then why are you being a moderator?

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