which one came first?

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    • #1491
      opuntia
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      egg or bird?

    • #27036
      b_d_41501
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      The Bird, or there would be no egg. But others will say the egg, or there would be no bird.

    • #27039
      comedian
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      Wouldn’t it be the egg, because chickens are descendants of reptiles?

    • #27048
      James
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      Well, yes 🙂 kind of

    • #27049
      Dr.Stein
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      Egg.
      According to Developmental Biology: Simple thing can differentiate into complex thing, whereas complex thing never turns back into simple thing 😉

    • #27062
      MrMistery
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      Of courser the egg came first. Insects lay eggs, fish do, amphibians etc…
      If you mean which came first: a bird or that particular bird’s egg? Than the answer is the bird
      The bird, the first of the particular species, appeared via mutation, then it started laying eggs

    • #27291
      victor
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      Omne ovum ex ovo?? 😉

    • #27318
      MrMistery
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      Excuse me?

    • #27368
      Dr.Stein
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      quote victor:

      Omne ovum ex ovo?? 😉

      Omne vivum ex ovo
      Omne ovum ex vivo
      thus,
      Omne vivum ex vivo (biogenesis)

      But nothing about omne ovum ex ovo 😆

    • #27381
      Poison
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      Excuse me but just out of curiosity, what is that?

    • #27385
      Zachthemac
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      It’s Latin.
      Omne vivum ex ovo = All life is from an egg

    • #27386
      Poison
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      Thank you… 🙂

    • #27395
      b_d_41501
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      I’d never heard that quote before. Interesting one indeed.

    • #27412
      Dr.Stein
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      quote Poison:

      Excuse me but just out of curiosity, what is that?

      Living thing comes from egg
      Egg comes from living thing
      thus
      Living thing comes from living thing (biogenesis)
      😉

    • #27416
      iri_black
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      But actually we all came from unliving proteins, din’t we? 🙂

    • #27445
      b_d_41501
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      Yes, or else the whole primordial soup hypothesis would be incorrect.

    • #27698
      Dr.Stein
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      quote iri_black:

      But actually we all came from unliving proteins, din’t we? 🙂

      Can you prove it? Stanley Miller cannot prove it yet 😉

    • #27702
      iri_black
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      Not yet, but sometime in this life-time, hwo knowes ?:D
      I know many experiments concerning this are conducted, and some of them succesfully.
      And that is the most plausible hypothessis, isn’t it?

    • #27707
      victor
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      It seems like everyone ask me to create some time-machines and go to the past…hahaha… 😆
      Just wait and see who will break A.J. Oparin and J.B.S. Heldane’s hypothesis… 😉

    • #27711
      Dr.Stein
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      victor: this reminds me of your SPMB test. Miller’s experiment referred to Urey’s theory, not Oparin’s. That’s why I answered the statement as “false” 😉

    • #27831
      Betsy
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      Actually the Miller/Urey experiment as done before the discovery of black smokers. And there have been experiments where the black smoker environment has yielded some interesting organic chemistry. Anyway, the abiogenisis question has a lot of differing theories so there’s more work to be done in that field.

      Betsy

    • #27947
      LrdGeno
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      what is a black smoker?

    • #27954
      James
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      They are hot hydrothermal vents (under the sea), which release black ‘smoke’, mainly composed of sulphur and iron.

    • #28240
      MrMistery
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      Lol… My mind went to a black person that smokes… And i kept thinking what has this to do with biogenesis?

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