which one came first?
July 19, 2005 at 5:06 pm #1491opuntiaParticipant
egg or bird?
July 19, 2005 at 5:26 pm #27036
The Bird, or there would be no egg. But others will say the egg, or there would be no bird.
July 19, 2005 at 6:18 pm #27039comedianParticipant
Wouldn’t it be the egg, because chickens are descendants of reptiles?
July 19, 2005 at 6:57 pm #27048JamesParticipant
Well, yes 🙂 kind of
July 19, 2005 at 6:58 pm #27049
According to Developmental Biology: Simple thing can differentiate into complex thing, whereas complex thing never turns back into simple thing 😉
July 19, 2005 at 7:59 pm #27062
Of courser the egg came first. Insects lay eggs, fish do, amphibians etc…
If you mean which came first: a bird or that particular bird’s egg? Than the answer is the bird
The bird, the first of the particular species, appeared via mutation, then it started laying eggs
July 23, 2005 at 11:55 am #27291victorParticipant
Omne ovum ex ovo?? 😉
July 23, 2005 at 6:35 pm #27318
July 24, 2005 at 9:46 am #27368quote victor:
Omne vivum ex ovo
Omne ovum ex vivo
Omne vivum ex vivo (biogenesis)
But nothing about omne ovum ex ovo 😆
July 24, 2005 at 4:15 pm #27381PoisonParticipant
Excuse me but just out of curiosity, what is that?
July 24, 2005 at 8:30 pm #27385ZachthemacParticipant
Omne vivum ex ovo = All life is from an egg
July 24, 2005 at 10:21 pm #27386PoisonParticipant
Thank you… 🙂
July 25, 2005 at 3:18 am #27395
I’d never heard that quote before. Interesting one indeed.
July 25, 2005 at 8:37 am #27412quote Poison:
Living thing comes from egg
Egg comes from living thing
Living thing comes from living thing (biogenesis)
July 25, 2005 at 10:01 am #27416iri_blackParticipant
But actually we all came from unliving proteins, din’t we? 🙂
July 25, 2005 at 1:39 pm #27445
Yes, or else the whole primordial soup hypothesis would be incorrect.
July 29, 2005 at 9:27 am #27698quote iri_black:
Can you prove it? Stanley Miller cannot prove it yet 😉
July 29, 2005 at 11:23 am #27702iri_blackParticipant
Not yet, but sometime in this life-time, hwo knowes ?:D
I know many experiments concerning this are conducted, and some of them succesfully.
And that is the most plausible hypothessis, isn’t it?
July 29, 2005 at 11:46 am #27707victorParticipant
It seems like everyone ask me to create some time-machines and go to the past…hahaha… 😆
Just wait and see who will break A.J. Oparin and J.B.S. Heldane’s hypothesis… 😉
July 29, 2005 at 12:16 pm #27711
victor: this reminds me of your SPMB test. Miller’s experiment referred to Urey’s theory, not Oparin’s. That’s why I answered the statement as “false” 😉
August 1, 2005 at 12:54 pm #27831BetsyParticipant
Actually the Miller/Urey experiment as done before the discovery of black smokers. And there have been experiments where the black smoker environment has yielded some interesting organic chemistry. Anyway, the abiogenisis question has a lot of differing theories so there’s more work to be done in that field.
August 2, 2005 at 9:21 pm #27947LrdGenoParticipant
what is a black smoker?
August 3, 2005 at 12:05 am #27954JamesParticipant
They are hot hydrothermal vents (under the sea), which release black ‘smoke’, mainly composed of sulphur and iron.
August 10, 2005 at 8:06 pm #28240
Lol… My mind went to a black person that smokes… And i kept thinking what has this to do with biogenesis?
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