orap 😉 It’s all in your head pal.

Dear Mith,

Many people are wondering and asking why the change of heart about allowing discussion on Fiber Disease on this forum again. Can you enlighten us please?

And here is the link to the real thread you asked for Debbie.

viewtopic.php?t=1958&highlight=

Peace,
Sabrina

Well I really have to wonder who that person is because when I begged nicely it just made things worse.

Gotta wonder why this nice person isn’t posting too.

Peace,
Sabrina

worked for me! 😆

http://psyweb.com/Drughtm/jsp/orap.jsp

I asked the moderators to open the forum in hope that some of the scientists here may engage in constructive dialogue with the sufferers of this physical malady.

Now that the Tam scammers and Q-based Inc. marketers have found other venues to scam frightened people, perhaps this will become a reality.

I am not active here because:

1) The scammers hav left.
2) I am still in remission, with only an occasional small rash
3) …….and have a very happy life away from the keyboard.

well this is more frightening than tamtam ever got. Not too scientific either.

viewtopic.php?t=1958&start=7320

update on my condition, cured by orap except for occasional slight rash which my shrink believes will be knocked down within two or three more sessions but I ran out of cash to continue. Thank God a new thread has been started.

peace

ps. the only website worth reading now is morgellonswatch. see ya there!

Q: You want to know what is even more frightening Sabrina?

A: A herd of savage hungry lawyers who have just been handed a valid Dx from the CDC.

The doctors are pretty much exempt from liability due to the absence of established medical protocol. They actually would have been breaking the law by treating a condition that is not known to exist unless they work at a research facility.

But what about internet scammers Sabrina? 😆 😆 😆 😆

Think about it Sabrina…………….Maybe Joe’s lawyers know. 😆 😆 😆 😆

But they aren’t telling you are they? 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Tick tock Tick Tock………………………..

Hi Guy’s, gosh it’s been a while;
Now, where were we?
Is "it";
A/,. Onchocerea, byrozoan, e coli agrobacterium super symbiosis?
B/,. Nano tech gone mad?
C/,. Metagenetic eugenics?
D/ All of the above?

edited

Dear Tamtam,

Thank you so much for finding this new treatment for us!! I have missed this thread terribly and all of your advice. I have many experiences to share, but for now I am just happy to have you back with us!!

Thank you moderators!!!!

Best Regards,

befour

This is a bad idea.

censorship |ˈsensərˌ sh ip|
noun
the practice of officially examining books, movies, etc., and suppressing unacceptable parts :

details of the visit were subject to military censorship.

http://www.marcuse.org/herbert/pubs/60s … erance.htm

Could someone please explain fully to me Fiber Disease? In there own words, in a manner that I can understand, because this all seems a little far fetched to me.

moderator |ˈmädəˌrātər|
noun
1 an arbitrator or mediator : Egypt managed to assert its role as a regional moderator.
• a presiding officer, esp. a chairman of a debate.
• a Presbyterian minister presiding over an ecclesiastical body.
2 Physics a substance used in a nuclear reactor to retard neutrons.

the moderator still steered by utter conviction was apt to comment

LESSONS FROM NAZI MEDICINE FOR STUDENTS AND PRACTITIONERS OF MEDICINE*
http://hgs.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/conte … act/5/1/73

Research on Human subjects
http://bioethicsanddisability.org/research.html

Tamtam,

poor victim of censorship you have been warned that your behaviour was not accptable, not because of what you said but because of how you said it and how you knowingly and repeatedly breach the rules of this site:
– You are promoting your theories, but consistently refused to provide any shred of evidence to subtantiate your claims
-you have made numerous very detailed claims that were challenged on existing science, to which your answer was simply repeating the claim without any more proof.
– you have been asked not to provide potentially dangerous "medical" advice on this board, but you come back and do it again. This is out of topic, and dangerous.
-The problem here is not freedom of speech, it is all about what this forum is for, what it is not. It is for healthy discussion about science in general, and biology in particular (the off topic forum is another story, this is the rec room of what is we hope an otherwise serious forum). It is NOT for unsubstantiated pseudoscience, advertisement for commercial products, treatments and other website.
-And before calling from freedom of speech, consider that it is not denied to you. You can go anywhere on the internet, and I will not chase you and try to silence you. But not on this board. This is the same as in many countries warranting freedom of speech. I cannot tell you not to say something, but I have all the rights to limit what you can say on my property (or one where I have rights to decide what can be said).

In conclusion quit posting your BS on this board, and leave alone the victim position, it is not what you are, just a convenient pose for the quack you are.

Amice,

As far as I remember: one prerequisite is that participants not openly go into discussion with a moderator.

May I conclude that you deliberately promote the idea:
Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without
any proof. (Ashley Montague)

"One note on the spot is more worth than a thousand recollections."

To objectify the matter, I took a copy of your response, and I will friendly ask the board to judge about it.

It is my absolute conviction that you only can suffer from opinion.

Yours sincerely,

tamtam

No, participants are welcome to discuss with moderators. But when participants make some claims not backed by science on a scientific board, and they ignore multiple demands of clarification, but use their claim to make further health recommandations, they are deemed dangerous and punished.

I am very afraid of your menace to call the other moderators, the admins (contact them by clicking on PM or here) or all the board to see my behaviour. A search on your username in the beginning of the "fiber disease thread" and your answers (or lack of it) to my polite request to provide further clarification about your claims would be really interesting…

In response to your kind inquiry I can let you know, that all consistent scientific data has been profoundly "edited" by your colleague.

My flimsy impression is that communism could not have done a better job!

Next to this, it is clear and evident that the average moderator on this board, refuses to accept any type "science" in the form of a playful writhe.

More than one virtual way leads to Rome, I suppose.

However,
My impression is that the very late introduction of the well known idea "discrimination" versus a new type and emerging "emancipation" seems to meet a rather deep seated and well generalized resistance of the established fraternity.

Bravo!
The sun comes up, the sun goes under
Man enters space!

And if you don’t listen, don’t do what I say… and at once!
blasphemy ! you brutal villain, hoax, undermining renegade, witch, fire, execution, mad, mad, mad!

So now where exactly is the darwinist inquisition gathered did you say?

tamtam

No, my colleague edited a so called cure. Scientific data are observations, descriptions of experiments and conclusion. They are not obfuscation, verbiage and posing.

On the 26th of october 2005 you said (using the name tamtam for the first time after having posted under the guise of gaiapacha and forum):

plus a lot of unsubstantiated crap and since then you have added quite a lot of the same BS and added quack remedies, with possible dangerous side effects. Other posters and moderators have asked clarifications, explanations, proofs (and sometimes simply meaningful sentences with something that remotely looks like english syntax). And you NEVER provided any. In more than 2 years! Yeah, I guess between that and "at once" there is little difference in the grand scheme of things. Sadly mods are human with a limited lifespan and even more limited patience.

I won’t go any further this thread is blocked.