Biology Forum Community General Discussion Living thing

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    • #748
      adam00f
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      In the beginning of the year my bio teacher gave us a question to figure out…Why isn’t a car a living thing.. ive been figureing it out and saying answers im very close but i can’t seem to get it..any help.i would aphricate it

      adam

    • #21556
      mith
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      uhhh, it doesn’t have babies? It doesn’t grow?

    • #21559
      adam00f
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      but then i guess my bio teacher will argue like well..man can make stuff or somthing..Ex: i was going to tell him that cars dont have DNA or the blue prints but then ..i remmberd that cars do have ablue print….and that cars havle also eveloutionized..i need something spefic…but i cant seem to grasp it..im so close

    • #21560
      mith
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      ok, we have a very good thread on the definition of life
      viewtopic.php?t=490&start=24
      But again, a car cannot make a baby car. Every living thing can.

    • #21561
      adam00f
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      that might work..its worth a shot..

    • #21563
      adam00f
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      Biostudent84 wrote:

      quote :

      Defining life:

      Here is the current definition of life. In order for something to be called living, it must follow all of these:

      1. all known living things are made up of cells.
      2. the cell is structural & functional unit of all living things.
      3. all cells come from pre-existing cells by division.
      (Spontaneous Generation does not occur).
      4. cells contains hereditary information which is passed from
      cell to cell during cell division.
      5. All cells are basically the same in chemical composition.
      6. all energy flow (metabolism & biochemistry) of life occurs
      within cells.

      maby i can apply this frm the thred u sent me too look at..now i just need to put it in my own intertepation..and hopefully get the questiuon right
      πŸ˜‰

    • #21578
      adam00f
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      I think I figured the answer to the question a car isn’t a living thing cause the car doesn’t carry its blue prints or genetic material in it, un like us we carry our genetic material in our nucleus. If you guys agree with me on this I’ll stick to it.

    • #21584
      Poison
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      I think you should better say that car does not have cells. or you can say that a car can not make cellular respiration to produce ATP.that would be more scientific because genetic material isn’t the only thing. viruses have genetic material too but they are non-living.
      Hope it helped…

    • #21590
      adam00f
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      lol probaly ill try that..if that dosnt work i still have till the end of the year πŸ˜†

    • #21596
      zami’87.
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      Hi people!I’m not sure that you can say that everything that is alive is made of cells.What about viruses?Are they “living things”?I’m not sure.Ok viruses can’t reproduce without cell’s metabolism but they can reproduce… πŸ™„

    • #21599
      2810712
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      This is well debated subject zam , and scientists can’t draw single conclusion , but recently they found viruses similar to some bacts , This is a amaizing fact from evolution pt. also.
      What’s ur opinion ? ? ? Have it.

      hrushikesh

    • #21600
      zami’87.
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      quote 2810712:

      This is well debated subject zam , and scientists can’t draw single conclusion , but recently they found viruses similar to some bacts , This is a amaizing fact from evolution pt. also.
      What’s ur opinion ? ? ? Have it.

      hrushikesh

      Hi again! Well I think that viruses should be counted in living organisms cause they are capable to reproduce.But I’m not sure for prions I mean they don’t have genetic material but they definitely show some properties of living organism

    • #21608
      Poison
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      quote zami’87.:

      Hi people!I’m not sure that you can say that everything that is alive is made of cells.What about viruses?Are they “living things”?I’m not sure.Ok viruses can’t reproduce without cell’s metabolism but they can reproduce… πŸ™„

      According to the definition of life, they are NOT living. But if you change the criteria of living things, they can be.. But they are non-living in the present situtation.
      We discussed this in the past you can make a search to read our discussion.

    • #21612
      adam00f
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      zami’87. if u want to know more abour virus click this link..they will help u http://www.biology-online.org/1/9_pathogens.htm, but its true virus are not living they have genetic material and stuff but in order for them to reproduse they need a cell

    • #21617
      zami’87.
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      quote adam00f:

      zami’87. if u want to know more abour virus click this link..they will help u http://www.biology-online.org/1/9_pathogens.htm, but its true virus are not living they have genetic material and stuff but in order for them to reproduse they need a cell

      Ok πŸ™‚

    • #21636
      Poison
      Participant

      is that link still working? I couldn’t open the page. can you please check that adam00f?

    • #21651
      oso
      Participant

      doesn’t grow, doesn’t reproduce

    • #21658
      2810712
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      Yeah, i also, calling living or non-living is matter of convinience i believe that there is a level of livingness amd deadness of every organ even we are not 100% living and the PC is not 100% non living [ if u know REKI and etc u’ll understand why] So, we should actually not defined life correctly . Prions , samilar case, but less living ness as no inheriance observed.

      PS: this is complicated . ARe u boared ???


      hrushikesh

    • #21734
      MrMistery
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      2810712 i posted something similar- one of my first posts. I’m glad to see that there is someone that agrees with me

    • #21764
      2810712
      Participant

      i’m also glad to learn this.

      πŸ˜€

      hrushikesh

      _____________________
      i’m born-different, so why try to make some difference? it’s there already…
      πŸ˜†

      hrushikesh

    • #21785
      thank.darwin
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      We are made up of atoms and atoms are not living so you could say that we are made up of a bunch of dead things. πŸ˜€

    • #21811
      biostudent84
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      quote thank.darwin:

      We are made up of atoms and atoms are not living so you could say that we are made up of a bunch of dead things. πŸ˜€

      I wouldn’t say “dead”, but rather “non-living”

    • #21813
      mith
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      right because dead means it was once living.

      One of the great questions about life is whether life is simply the complex interactions between simple molecules, governed by the laws of chemistry and physics, or whether life is something imbued into these atoms. Without going into a metaphysical debate, I just want everyone to consider if all life is mechanical, how can something be judged “more living”?

    • #21830
      2810712
      Participant

      Something that is metaphysical for ‘modern’ science today, can be physical later and that things may have been realized by ancient people. This is not impossible. So , don’t neglect the metaphysical things, think upon and u may have a new discovery of yours.

      hrushikesh

    • #21844
      MrMistery
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      As I said in another subject, from my opinion the best way to look at life is like this: any living organism is more than the sum of it’s parts(here we mean chemical parts)

    • #112001
      greatmona1
      Participant

      Hi adam00f,
      Only who have life that’s called living things .But a car has no life ,so it is a non living things .It is only drive by man with fuel.Thanks.

    • #112089
      damasco9
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      Hey, very simple and hard to explain in the same time isn’t it? the life itself represents a constant change and evolution..cars don’t evolve unless we develop them,secondly we make cars they don’t make us..;)

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