October 31, 2010 at 5:40 am #14042
After the detaching of the educational system from the church, some secret notions from the Enigmatic Book needed to become hidden from the secular audience.
That is why the brethrens nominated and helped generously their man, who was to concoct a theory of the human’s origin which is to satisfy the educational system – Charles Darwin.
Actually, Darwin reveals to the alumni of the educational system that Adam was a primate but not more. This feature was discretely circulated by the brethrens to discretely differ from Darwin in order to peck secularly the educated “gudgeons”.
The gene in the primates had been amassed for long time, but till the moment of the androgenic making of Eva came, there were no quality changes in the kind of proto-humans.
After the Falling into Sin the Godly hairy sons started freely to contract knowledge, got from Adam’s family from the fig trees wood – up to the Deluge, whether from populace or waters.
November 1, 2010 at 8:50 am #102097
does that make sense at least to you? 🙄
November 2, 2010 at 9:02 am #102107quote JackBean:
Genetics has also been given to the world by a clergyman. You know by who. He did not say more than the allowed, too.
November 2, 2010 at 9:34 am #102109
Sure I do, he came from the same country 😎
Of course the "science" came from churches in the past, as the clargymen were the only allowed to be educated. What’s your point?
November 2, 2010 at 2:27 pm #102115quote JackBean:
The illuminated clergymen know how the new kind in the fig tree forest has been conceived.
These monks keep the Secret – they and many secularly men have been conceived through it.
Mendel has a mission similar to Darwin’s.
November 2, 2010 at 6:06 pm #102120
and BTW he was studying at the same University as me 😛 but never mind, because I see it really makes no sense to discuss with you.
I guess you just have some PC program, which you only feed with some "noble" words and make it to setle the senteces for you, don’t you? 😆
November 3, 2010 at 8:03 am #102128quote JackBean:
The laws of peas sort formation apply to a much bigger extent to mankind than schoolgirls suppose.
November 3, 2010 at 2:10 pm #102132quote enarees:
QED. Random word parsing program, obviously.
November 21, 2010 at 5:03 pm #102378venikParticipantquote JackBean:
Isaac Newton was a clergyman?
Off the top of my head, all are theist scientists which were not clergymen.
You can lie to yourself all you want about why they were all religious, and many were clergymen. But don’t lie about the facts, which was that you "had to be" a clergymen." That is simply fabricated non-sense.
While I don’t agree or follow the original post. I did not know that Darwin was a clergymen. I find it very interesting that atheists suddenly fought tooth and nail to remove religion from science in the late 19th century. Most scientists were philosophers and theologians before then. And everyday they homogenize even more as we get closer and closer to the real question we all want to answer "why are we here, and how did we get here?" This is both a scientific, religious, and philosophical question, not exclusively a "scientific" (in today’s vernacular) one. As such, scientists should not be scorned, as they are today, for philosophizing and/or stating theological beliefs. There are many great scientists today who say they are atheist or agnostic, because they could lose their job and reputation if they don’t. The modern collegian secular "scientific" community of today, is the 15th century church of yesterday.
November 22, 2010 at 5:52 am #102383
I was talking about a little darker ages…
November 22, 2010 at 1:16 pm #102387venikParticipantquote JackBean:
Right. I wasn’t aware there was talk of genetics pre 1400. Care to elaborate?
November 22, 2010 at 4:22 pm #102389quote venik:
Church used to be one of the very few human endeavour that allowed a scholarly life for a long time. It has progressively changed since the middle age, and offered the possibility of a career of study and science to those beyond the nobility and the clergy, hence the growing number of non religious scientist. This is what JackBean was pointing out. Nothing more as far as I can see.
Unlike what you seem to think, reliogisity is not something that will prevent you to have a (successful) scientific career (over used high profile example: Francis Collins; but there are many more). And thinking a bout science and its implication, its ethics is quite fine, many people do and are not the least ridiculed for it. But if your religion makes you oblivious to facts, data and your biases then you will be ridiculed out of the profession for sure. And even that might not be even enough to get you out of the scientific "pantheon" (K. Mullis and F. Crick have had their lunatic moments, yet they merit still stand for themselves) nor even out of employment. For crying out loud there is such a thing as the Discovery institute! And please do not bring Ben Stein and the stupid expelled movie here.
If there are so many atheists in science it is probably because many people see how conflicting many religious dogma can be with respect to reality. And when your profession and passion revolves around testing hypotheses and doubting what cannot be tested, it becomes a bit hard to do just that in another part of your life.
November 22, 2010 at 5:31 pm #102390quote venik:
Canalon and JackBean are the contemporary inquisitors.
They keep important secrets for brethrens.
November 22, 2010 at 6:49 pm #102392quote enarees:
QFT That is why you have been banned to be silenced by those moderators in a blatant show of abuse of power. And we limit the access to the secret database so that the poor uninitiated cannot access scientific evidence that we rely on (and please never look for the bookshelf).
Oh wait…. enarees you are deluded and completely irrelevant when it comes to biology. You might think that you have something of interest to bring to the discussion, but you do not. Yet we do not silence you because your own lack of knowledge, sense, data and relevance is enough to show the world the importance (or lack thereof) of what you have to say.
You are going to make me regret that I am not an inquisitor. I would torture you to death by forcing you to study and educate yourself. I might use books by Dawkins, S.J Gould and Popper. They are full of terrible secrets and in a pile, quite heavy when use to whack the internet trolls into submission.
November 24, 2010 at 8:14 pm #102452
November 24, 2010 at 10:02 pm #102453
What do you make of that?
An empty egg is fertilized by one or two sperm and develop in an hydatidiform mole (a non viable pocket of embryonic tissue, not an embryo). They abort it, and its normally fertilized twin. I fail to see what would be quite earth-shattering. Would you care to illuminate us?
And before you tell us that androgenesis is thus proved, then I would point that sperm making an incomplete placenta that abort itself, or eliminated by the doctor, is far from being a conclusive proof that androgenesis is a viable reproductive system, don’t you think?
November 30, 2010 at 12:14 pm #102543
A more suitable, than an empty ovum, environment for mammal androgenesis can be created.
And has been created – many, many times!
November 30, 2010 at 5:06 pm #102548quote enarees:
November 30, 2010 at 5:58 pm #102551quote canalon:
Saint Nicholas’s dwarfs.
And many inquisitors who are quite an ancient clan.
December 1, 2010 at 1:12 am #102559quote enarees:
What are you talking about ?
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